April 5, 2016 publication. Riverhead Books.
And already available for pre-order here, here, and here!
April 5, 2016 publication. Riverhead Books.
And already available for pre-order here, here, and here!
In end-of-the-year phone calls from friends near and far, many express despair at the state of the world. I fully understand why, but I don’t accept their despair. In fact I can make a strong argument against it. Because what has changed is not so much the world itself, but our awareness of it.
A single click on the screen you’re looking at right now will bring you to visceral images from thousands of miles away. A Syrian boy’s body washed up on the shore of a Greek island. A young woman beaten to death and set on fire in Afghanistan after a malicious rumor that she had burned a Quran (which leads me to ask “and even if she had…?”). Crazed Israeli settlers celebrating a wedding by cheering the arson murder of a Palestinian baby. A white cop shooting a fleeing black man in the back. We focus on such images, and ask what the world has come to.
We forget where it has come from.
When Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker’s book The Better Angels of Our Nature came out a few years ago, I bristled at the pseudo-religious sentimentality of the title. (Okay, I still do.) But the book has stayed with me, along with its subtitle: “why violence has declined.” Yes, you read that right.
Pinker is no cock-eyed optimist: he’s an empiricist, and he spends close to 700 pages proving his point with data . “We can see our world as a nightmare of crime, terrorism, genocide, and war,” he writes, “or as a period that, by the standards of history, is blessed by unprecedented levels of peaceful coexistence.”
Now, it’s true “the standards of history” are pretty low, and that as Pinker himself notes, to make such a case in a century that began with 9/11, Darfur, and Iraq could well be seen as hallucinatory, even obscene. But it’s also true that despite what we see on the news, more people live more safely than ever before.
The difference is that now we know about violence. News spreads almost instantaneously. Cellphones are everywhere. Images are captured in real time, and seen in real time. And it’s only human to focus on these images.
So how do we deal with so much knowledge? How do we go about our lives with this awareness?
Outrage, shock, and even despair all seem to me healthy reactions. Because they are reactions, and not so long ago, there were none. White cops once shot unarmed black men as a matter of routine. Refugees have drowned and starved in far greater numbers in the past. Women were once set on fire in Massachusetts as well as in Afghanistan. And massacres were by the thousands, even without the aid of guns. But all of this was hidden from immediate consciousness. Such events once passed for the most part unnoticed, unreported, unremarked upon until far later.
And more important, we didn’t see the violence. We didn’t have the evidence of our eyes. Now we do, and it encourages me that we are shocked. That we are outraged. That we do condemn. That we do care.
Evil can no longer take place under the cloak of silence. We hear it, and we see it. And we speak up against it. We are all witnesses now. And as witnesses, we will step forward.
And yes, despite the evidence of our eyes, this is progress.
Dear Lesley, you and I are in complete agreement, but no one was burned at the stake in the Salem witch trials. Lynchings around the country maybe, but not as capital punishment.
Just checked, and you’re right: they were hung. In Denmark, they were burned.
Lots of burning in England as well. Which is an interesting question to ask, burning at the stake did not happen in the United States as a public execution, why was that? Lynching is another matter.
Thanks Leslie,
I needed this reminder. I read articles about his book when it came out, and I hold to the anti-despair position, but sometimes my attention sags, and despair creeps in.
Yes.
Various societies can allow the weight of knowledge, pertaining to worldwide human suffering, to crush the spirit of hope and resolve OR motivate all of us to collectively seek ways to relieve and prevent that which afflicts others.
Positioning ourselves like the 3 chimps with hands over eyes, ears and mouths is a common impulse but we CAN and must overcome this!
Maybe “evil can no longer take place under the cloak of silence”, but evil seems to be doing just fine in the light of day. As of a few days ago, it appears that sentences in Farkhunda’s murder are being commuted and it is uncertain what the disposition of the case will be.
Video of a “A white cop shooting a fleeing black man in the back” didn’t seem to deter the shooting of a white man (and the subsequent murder of his autistic 6 year old son, Jeremy Mardis), allegedly by black officers. All of the visibility and condemnation of the drug-related violence in Mexico hasn’t lessened the horror. It would seem that the determination of what is evil (or the degree of evil and whether to punish, or how severely to punish) is pretty much in the culture’s (those in power in the culture) eye.
We know evil, we see it within a few hours, we condemn it, but now what?
And it was not just “women” murdered in Salem, one was my great grandfather X6, Samuel Wardwell, hung on the gallows. He was an architect and builder of the House of Seven Gables (now the Salem museum.) His crime: a bachelor who scooped up the best looking widow in the area..
Thanks for your optimism. Progress has always been a messy, “three-steps-forward-two-steps-back” business. When you’re in the midst of it, it’s hard to tell how to measure a step (or to have any clear sense of where you are in the process). It gets hard to avoid drowning in the gloom sometimes, but as you say – onward and upward. Of course these days we also have the complication of whether or not the rate of degrading planetary habitability is compatible with our process/pace of improvement as a species (yikes).
Yes, measuring the size of steps is tricky business, as is figuring out which way you’re going on them. Do they go up or do they go down, or are we all in the middle of an Escher drawing? (or stuck on one of those weird gym machines). Plus, I wonder if there’s a link between the violence we do to the planet and the violence we do to each other…
As an anonymous would-be philosophe once said: “A bigger window always reveals more scenery…but not always the scene you want.”
(Ok, that was me who said that).
Our world is in a mess. I agree with you we must keep our hope and positive way for a better peaceful world
Hi Leslie, very insightful and yes something that has come to my mind too. Thanks for putting the right words together (wish they could come as easily to me). Which brings me to my next question; is war/violence/death an auto-immune response by God/nature/whatever-you-choose-to-call-that-power, to the burgeoning population of this planet?
Leslie thank you for this reminder that all the current atrocities are actual improvements to previous times. I certainly was not looking at it that way so your point of view, and Pinker’s. is an important reminder for us all.
As Fran says, you’ve opened some eyes on world perspective and the actual progression of human kindness Thanks for the reminder.
Your blog brings up a very good point. Going to read the book you mentioned.
I have wondered and debated the same question.
Awareness precedes action.
The cover of this week’s Charlie Hebdo leaves me speechless, in a good way. And in tears too. (And yes, it is indeed deeply Islamic in spirit.)
That’s the fittest reply expected….
Despite the calumny of depiction, the spirit of its presentation should be into account. Muslims should salute this one….
Awesome!!
How many people cried when these sick Taliban shot and burned 124 young students and teachers in Peshawar last month. I think our tears are also selective.
Some of us did cry for those students and teachers in Peshawar…and for the café manager and customer who were shot in Sydney…and again for the staff assassinated at Hebdo.
Some even cried harder when people stood up and said (in essence), ‘This stops now. We will not be cowed by the Taliban, or ISIS or anyone who would use their faith to destroy innocent lives.’
A strong Light.
Yesterday I found a video from you on the web about Islam.
I searched for other video’s.
I am impressed about your way of thinking.
it’s not your topic that attracted me but the way you see it, the way you aproche it, and how you phrase it.
I believe that all beings are part of the Light.
Th same Light who created the Big Bang, the same Light that created the first atoms in the belly of the stars, the same Light that made life as we know possible on earth.
As Light is our source, we are attracted by it.
As there are stars who radiate more light then other stars,
Some humans radiate more Light then others (as is above so is below)
And vary rarely there were and are and will be people who shine like a star (Mozes, Jesus, Mohamed, Boedha, Gandi, Marten l King,…)
Light can bring love, understanding, awareness,…
Light can ‘open’ eyes.
As written in the Bible, Jesus’ (Light) made a blindman ‘see’.
Ms. Hazleton, you are a strong Light. Keep on radiating.
Thanks to you people can perhabs see better, further, wider, deeper,…
Regards
Levent Guney
Ps. Love your idea of ‘doubt’
No religion preaches violence. It is the misguided elements who bring a bad name and reputation to their respective religions, due to their misunderstood beliefs!
This comment appears to have been dropped by WordPress — I have no idea why, but it happens, as it does on Facebook — but the writer emailed me about it, so am taking the liberty of printing it here together with my reply:
Dear Lesley,
Did you read the comment in Time magazine saying that the
“Editor-in-chief Gérard Biard, who made their intent clear on a French radio program saying: “It is we who forgive, not Muhammad,” referring to the speculation by some that the cover was a message about the paper being forgiven for publishing an image of the Prophet, an act that many Islamic leaders deem sacrilegious.”
It was quite a misleading cover, and could harbour unwarranted repercussions. Hope sanity prevails on both sides.
My reply:
That’s the thing with art, high or (as in this case) low — the viewer reads into it, and it is (as are words) always open to multiple readings. Perhaps we each choose the reading we want.
And there are so many ways of reading.
I never thought the cover meant that the editors were saying that Muhammad was forgiving them — rather that first, forgiveness was central to Islam, and second, that they forgave. How sincere this was on their part is of course another question. But since I believe it to be true that Muhammad would indeed be in tears at all this, I went with that first meaning.
There are other levels of meaning I can think of. One that occurred to me was that the surviving cartoonists, being a left-wing intellectual crowd despite their affinity for the childishly grotesque, were thinking of the last line of The Myth of Sisyphus (by that French Algerian, Camus) — “Il faut imaginer Sisyphe heureux” — and from there arrived at “Mahomet malheureux.”
Professor Hazleton, I have been visiting your blog on and off, but I just want to thank you. I was a little ashamed when I saw your video ‘on reading the quran’ because you appeared to experience the book in a manner that I (as a muslim) had not done. I also read your biography of the prophet (pbuh) in a single day, because it give me a more meaningful connection with his personality.
I also share your idea of doubt, because I read somewhere (i think in the works of Rumi) that doubt and faith are like two wings that keep the bird in the air and if either one is missing, the bird cannot fly.
Keeping that in mind, Im not sure if youve heard of the man, but you would find great pleasure in reading books my Imam Al-Ghazzali. He was one of the giants of Islam and his influence on christianity is also tremendous. He also chose the ways of skepticism and doubt. Im sure you would find great pleasure in reading the following books:
1) Deliverance from error
2) Niche for lights
Lastly. Keep up the good work 🙂
Thank you. I met a dear friend at a coffee shop the other day. I was carrying a novel by Ali Smith; she was carrying al-Ghazzali. We had a wonderful conversation about the difference between artificial light and natural light.
mrs hazleten ı am a medical student and ı read your books and watch your videos . ı dont know how should ı say but did you heard anythıng about asa-ı musa book from risaleinur collection.ALso in there there is something about agnostizm .ı thınk thıs is valuable to think in a different side.ı know ıt ıs not my business but just a suggestion and ıam thinking for a months about it
Thank you. I’m currently working on the last chapter of an agnostic manifesto, to be published in early 2016.
Hello Prof Hazleton,
I don’t know from where to start. I can’t speak on behalf of the Muslim population here in Pakistan but I’m sure there are quite a number who will agree with me.
As Wahab said, faith and doubt goes hand in hand with each other. And yes, I do have doubts. And by searching for answers, it leads me to faith, closer with every search.
Your book, The First Muslim, opened a sacred door inside me. Before reading this, to be honest, I really didn’t knew Muhammad. Here, in our textbooks and our grandmothers` stories, Muhammad is being pictured as an Angel rather than a human. So we cannot relate to him like we do with another fellow human. We couldn’t feel his pain, neither we could see the essence of his life as a man, prophet and a leader. But thanks to your words, I finally met him, as a human above all. 🙂
Dear Professor Hazleton,
I have only recently come across your work, and have just ordered your two books (The First Muslim and After the Prophet). As a British born Muslim, I initially retreated from Islam in my youth, and engaged with eastern enlightenment teachings and meditation. I’m now circling back to Islam to review my inherited religion and integrate the different paths of understanding and experience that I’ve now accumulated.
I am curious to know whether you have explored/engaged with any thinkers that take an ‘integral’ perspective on religion/spirituality. I’m thinking of the likes of integral philosopher, Ken Wilber and Steve McIntosh? McIntosh recently published a paper, entitled “Fostering Evolution in Islamic Culture.”
I am looking forward to diving into your books.
Best Regards
Aterah
I am going to wage peace upon everyone who disagrees with me. It will be an aggressive, offensive and hostile strike that will continue until I inflict the final death blow to misunderstandings and conflict. I will gather all my available resources & weapons for this assault. I will never surrender until the foes of harmony surrender. I declare war on war. I will inflict peace on everyone and occupy your fear with understanding. You will suffer under my brutal campaign of tranquility. The enemy will endure the horrors of justice, tolerance, compassion and freedom. I will indoctrinate the aggressors with acceptance until the resistance is futile. I will show no mercy for hate. If you are not with me you are against warmth, love and little furry baby animals.
This brief manifesto was posted on Facebook earlier today by Palestinian-American stand-up comedian Aron Kader, followed by this update:
My war against war begins tomorrow. I will be on CNN tomorrow on the Brooke Baldwin program to talk about the murder of my cousin Mohammed Abu Khdeir and the police beating of Tariq Abu Khdeir. Also my plea for ceasefire in Gaza and how you will never convince me we cannot have peace.
To say I’m an instant fan doesn’t begin to cover it. Finally, a war I can support!
I would join this war whole-heartedly….let’s do it instantly, it’s unbearable out there. Pleas and prayers in support….
Nuzhat
I think, Leslie, that true (and I know how much you hate the word Truth with a capital T, but this true could be capitalized and I’m sure you’d still be on board) martyrs are the ones that die fighting this kind of war.
I support this war too.
Enough martyrs, Khaled. Let’s declare the age of martyrs well and truly over, no matter what the cause.
This is the only war worth supporting… we must save the children from their suffering; I weep when I see the fear in their eyes. Sending my prayers and support . God bless. Anita
On the other hand, Israeli frnd who lives near the Jerusalem Forest where the body was found, erected with others in the village, a monument in memory of the 16 year old who was beaten and burned to death. That evening it was destroyed by right wing activists, they rebuilt it , the next day and again in the morning it had been destroyed. When the Arab families whose sons killed in cold blood, the three young teenagers who were hitchhiking in the West Bank I may have a change of heart vis a vis the present conflict. Meanwhile it’s time to sent Hamas, ISIS, Islamic Jihad and their supporters, back to the Stone Age.
The point is this: In the spirit of your friend who helped erect and then rebuild that monument — and who I hope will continue to rebuild it every time it gets pulled down — let’s get beyond sending anyone at all “back to the Stone Age.”
let’s fight a peace war, and stop the weeping of all the mothers….let;s fight a peace war in the name of all children, regardless of origin.
Several yrs ago when i was much younger I had been asked by a local Rabbi, to come to a synagogue, something which I never do here in Israel, to maintain along with others a strong physical presence when things would ‘get out of hand’, which they did. The speaker was a Palestinian living in the US who was in favor of a non-violent confrontation with the on going situation, a Palestinian Martin Luther King like figure.
Kahanist like males were scattered through out the the audience and interrupted his presentation, time and time again and each time they interrupted young guys, wearing kippas physically tossed them out of the synagogue. At times it was a bit violent.
His presentation was impressive and spoke to us Israelis, Peace Now, Meretz types, however when I spoke with my Arab friends, no one had ever heard of him.
It’s rare that a commencement address makes news. This annual speech given by one notable or another to the graduating class of an American college or high school is usually in the blandly uplifting vein (you-young-people-are-a-whole-new-future, our-hopes-are-in-you, as-you-go-out-into-this-great-wide-world blah blah blah). Students fidget and check their phones, parents nod and beam proudly, and everyone comes away satisfied that a ritual has been duly observed. So when Roosevelt High School in Seattle asked writer David Guterson to give their commencement speech this past June, they apparently expected more of the same.
They didn’t get it.
What they got was what anyone who has read Guterson would hope for. His best-known novel is probably his first, Snow Falling on Cedars, but my favorites are Our Lady Of The Forest and The Other. These are all hauntingly beautiful and deeply serious works of art, books that go deep into the terms on which we exist both on this earth and in this society.
The terms of our existence? In a commencement speech? A call to engage honestly and fiercely with the whole question of happiness? And with the reality of — gasp! — death? Some parents heckled and booed, and tried to cut the speech short. Later, they complained that it was “gloomy” and “negative.” Too real, it seems.
Interestingly — and far more to the point — students did not heckle or boo. They listened. Many with gratitude. Because here was someone actually talking directly to them, to where they were at. Knute Berger, the editor of Crosscut, thought the same, posting a “defense of David Guterson.” But read the speech for yourself, and see what you think:
Thank you. And thank you to the organizers of this event for giving me the opportunity to speak. I don’t take it lightly. Life’s short, and we don’t often have the chance to share what we think and feel is most important. This, for me, is exactly that chance, and I don’t want to waste it by talking to you casually. Right now, I have 15 minutes, and after that I will leave this podium, and it might be the case that never again will I have the microphone at a ceremony like this one, where it’s perfectly acceptable for me to offer up my take on things–where it’s even expected that I’ll offer my take on things. That take on things, most of the time, remains private, which is how it should be. You have your own–everyone here has their own vision of life. But right now I’ve been invited to share mine, and I’d like to do that with everyone here–not just with the graduating seniors but with their parents and siblings, their friends and relatives, their teachers, the administrators on hand tonight, to anyone in reach who cares to listen.
And what I want to talk about, as specifically and straightforwardly as possible, is happiness–happiness as something elusive on the one hand, and central to our concerns as human beings on the other. At every moment of our waking lives, we’re either in pursuit of happiness or enjoying its presence. When we feel unhappy, we want to change that, and when we feel happy, we want that to continue. At this very moment you are somewhere on the spectrum of happiness and unhappiness. If you are bored or uncomfortable, if your unhappiness takes those forms, you want things to change in the direction of less boredom and more comfort–in other words, in the direction of more happiness. If you’re enjoying this moment and finding it entirely pleasant, you don’t need things to change. Life, quite relentlessly, is of this nature, and all of us pass it, from moment to moment, either addressing our unhappiness or enjoying our happiness. All of us get considerable amounts of both, no matter what we do, but some people get more of one or the other, and I submit to you that you yourself have much to say about the amount of each in your life. In fact, no one, and nothing, has more to say about it than you.
I have an absolutely clear memory of being 18 and graduating from Roosevelt High School. I remember that many things made me feel happy, and that I pursued those things with vigor, but I also remember that I dreaded adulthood, and even more, old age and death, and that no matter what I was doing, no matter how good were the good times, somewhere at the bottom–underneath the music and the friends, the late nights and the fun–somewhere at the bottom there was always an awareness that this wasn’t going to last forever, and that I would have to get old like everyone else, which might not be so fun, and that one day, I would die, which wouldn’t be fun, either. Sometimes I would go for long periods without thinking about this, but then it would come to me again, the reality of my aging and death, an awareness of this while I was having so much fun, and the way I dealt with it was by telling myself that old age and death were way off in the future, that I had a lot of time, that I would deal with it later. Or I denied it. I told myself that, somehow, my own aging and death weren’t possible. I remember thinking, in 1974, that the year 2016, when I would turn 60, would somehow never come, that it just couldn’t happen, something would change before that date, and yet now it’s just 3 years away.
Is all of this familiar? Or was I just an inordinately morbid 18 year old? I think the literature I taught when I was a high school English teacher is pretty clear on this, because distress about mortality is there, pervasively, in the poems, plays, novels, and stories human beings have produced–they tell us in no uncertain terms that death is a big problem for a lot of us, and that the reality of our own death makes it very, very hard for us to feel 100% happy 100% of the time, which is how we would like to feel, and how we wish life was. In fact, we’re bothered by the fact that this universe we didn’t invent or choose to live in has to be like this. Why couldn’t it be otherwise? Why isn’t reality better than it is? If there’s a God, how come He or She includes death in His or Her Creation–not to mention suffering and pain, and suffering and pain of such intensity and persistence that it seems impossible that there is indeed a Creator who is all powerful and all good? Because if the Creator of the universe is all powerful and all good, why do bad things not just happen but happen to everybody? And why is it that the ultimate bad thing, our annihilation as individuals, also happens to everybody? What kind of a God creates such a reality? Not one who is all powerful and all good, as far as we, in our limited, human way, construe those terms. Which turns a lot of us into unbelievers, quite naturally. But then what? Now what? We find ourselves afraid of the universe, because it is either the work of a God who seems inexplicable at best and malicious at worst or a place completely indifferent to us, when all we want, as I said before, is to be happy. Why does that have to be so complicated, this happiness we seek? Why does the universe seem to be a place where happiness isn’t possible? We don’t have answers. And so, from day to day we just stumble on through life, aware that it is, in its very nature, unsatisfactory, and experiencing, privately, a sense of dissatisfaction with it, and mostly at a loss regarding what to do about it. In this profoundly confused way, our lives pass, and then they end.
If you are troubled by all of this, and would rather not be asked to think about it right now, well, welcome to the human race. On the other hand, be glad, because if you’re troubled right now, than at least at this moment you’re no longer kidding yourself. For just this moment you aren’t saying to yourself, “I’ll deal with it later; right now, things are good.” Instead of kidding yourself that way, you’re looking directly at the central problem life presents, which can’t be addressed as long as you’re fleeing from it. So if you’re distressed right now by all of this talk about death and God and the universe, be glad that you’re able to feel this distress, because without it, you’d have no hope for happiness. Your distress, your dissatisfaction, is the starting place, and the earlier you acknowledge and accept it, the better. In fact, this early start is critical, because if you wait, you will only continue on the path of deepening your strategies of avoidance, and that will make it harder. So start now, if you are 18 or 80. Start today.
What do I mean by strategies of avoidance? That’s a plural–strategies of avoidance–so let me start by describing just one, a common one in our place and time. This strategy hinges on willful distraction. We wake up, remember who we are, remember where we are, recall that life is not entirely satisfactory, and then we turn on our various hand-held devices to see what is going on in the world and who is communicating with us, and when those plentiful sources of distraction are temporarily exhausted we listen to music, and when the music doesn’t entirely satisfy we play a game on our hand-held devices while listening to different music, or we read while we eat, or while going to the bathroom, or while riding on the bus, and again we have the sensation that something is wrong, that things are not entirely satisfactory, we lack 100% happiness, and so we text somebody, or look at pictures of people on Facebook, or remember that there is something we would like to buy that could use a little research, and then, when the bus stops, a person sexually attractive to us gets on and sits down, and we look up and distract ourselves from the basic problem of life by admiring them for a while, some of us getting carried away with all kinds of thoughts about that person that have nothing to do with who they are in actuality, and after a while that fades, too, and we go on to the next thing, which might be, before we look down again at the screen of our hand-held device, a visual sweep across the landscape of our fellow bus riders while indulging in a stream of critical thoughts about them, that the person there is ugly, or that the person there is obviously an idiot because if he wasn’t he wouldn’t wear what he is wearing or carry the kind of backpack he is carrying, at which point the bus is passed in the adjacent lane by a car and you turn your attention to that, you peer out the window into the car because there are 4 fellow students in it on their way to school and one of them is somebody you don’t like very much, a cheater and a jerk, and then it’s time to look at your hand-held device again, and now an hour has passed since you woke up and only once or twice, in small, unasked for lulls, were you undistracted enough to know what you were actually doing or thinking and to exercise some control over it. For years and years you’ve done this until it has become, simply, the way your brain works. The neural pathways of judgment and impatience and boredom and dissatisfaction have become deep grooves, until this manner of experiencing the world and life seems to be the only possible way. But it is, in fact, not the only way. It is instead something you have learned to do, something that with time has become so familiar to you that you may be as unaware of it as you are of your own breathing.
Many of you, young and old, are recreational marijuana users. But regarding you graduates: statistics show that about half of people your age use marijuana more than 100 times per year. In our part of the United States the rate is even higher, and in schools like Roosevelt, with a large upper middle class demographic, the rate is higher still. I say this because I think recreational marijuana use is related to the point I’m making. You become dissatisfied with the ordinary, common, familiar, and normal processes of your own mind and use marijuana in order to get away from them. You smoke, and after that your mind works differently, and it is like a respite or vacation from your ordinary mind, an interlude in which you experience the world and life and your own mind in a more satisfying way. But then, eventually, the trip is over, and you come back to your ordinary way of thinking and to the normal world, which is so boring and unsatisfactory that you feel an urge to get high again, all the while knowing that this marijuana smoking is a crutch, a little vacation or a holiday, but not really the answer to the problem of life–really, in the end, just another distraction. Some people do this with alcohol, or by taking literal vacations to places like Hawaii or Mexico, or by combining all 3, marijuana, alcohol, and a sunny beach, or by engaging in recreational activities like skiing or kayaking–all of it with a view toward experiencing life in a way more satisfying than it normally feels, and all of it undertaken with the sinking feeling that even these activities don’t really solve the problem. They’re also just distractions, like everything else, brief respites from dissatisfaction, and they don’t address the fact that by and large we are not at peace, not satisfied, and not happy.
I mentioned earlier that young people sometimes deal with this problem by having as much fun as they can now while telling themselves that distressing existential dilemmas can come later. I want to warn you that this is a recipe for disaster. The fun you are having now turns out to be not so much a temporary stay against life and death, or a delaying tactic, but a response to life and death that gradually and relentlessly tightens its grip on you, and becomes a habit, even an addiction. I also want to warn you about something else–that the society you find yourself in isn’t going to help you. It isn’t designed to help you. It isn’t a society with a spiritual or philosophical basis designed to assist you in your aspiration toward happiness. It is, in fact, designed to do the opposite. First, it teaches you that you are the most important thing in the world, and does it so well and thoroughly that you don’t even notice. This is there in the the so-called “Enlightenment” philosophy that is the underpinning of modern Western life and in our political principles and political documents–that the individual, with his or her personal goals, hopes, dreams, and aspirations, is primary and foremost. From these philosophical and political roots, the primacy of the individual has grown and spread to subsume nearly everything, and that, in the end, has not brought us happiness, because the you that matters so much every second of every day is in fact mortal and even ephemeral, and you know this, and isn’t it sad, even tragic, to know that in the end all of your hopes, dreams, and aspirations don’t amount to much, that they take you nowhere, and that this constant obsession with them is really just another form of unhappiness. To put this another way, if my life is first and foremost about me, I will never be happy.
We have another big problem when it comes to happiness in our society. While each of us is relentlessly busy chasing after his or her personal hopes and dreams, our very sophisticated modern economy is busily exploiting the psychological and emotional vulnerabilities elicited by this state of affairs. It is an economy that motors along on your dissatisfaction, that steams ahead only if it can convince you that something is missing in your life. It knows that you are insecure about your appearance, for example, and in advertising it does everything it can to make you feel even worse about it, because if you feel worse about it, you will buy expensive clothing or pay a doctor to change your face. So in our society, not only do you have to be unhappy on that existential level that is just part and parcel of being human, you also have to be unhappy in ways designed for you by others, and if you are a woman or gay or a person of color, your society will make it even harder for you by tilting the playing field so you have to walk uphill, and by confounding your inner life in ways white men don’t have to face. Add to this your natural anxiety about the future–your distress about what it means that we are developing smart drones and melting the polar ice cap–and happiness begins to feel, for a lot of us, impossible. So impossible that the rate of mental illness in America, of depression in particular, is higher that it has ever been. The world might seem full of possibility, and it is that way, but it is also a place where you can very quickly find yourself among the living dead–a being without the means for happiness.
Here is something you can do about it–or something you can do to get started. Take whatever handheld device you own out of your pocket or bag and set the alarm for 2 hours for now. When it makes whatever noise you have selected for it to make, ask yourself how often during the last 2 hours you were actually in charge of your thoughts. How often was your mind just rolling along like a pack of drunken monkeys, doing whatever it wants without you having anything to say about it? How often was it busy being bored, dissatisfied, critical of others, self-absorbed, insecure, self-hating, anxious, and/or afraid? How often were you genuinely happy? And exactly at the moment your alarm makes its noise, where was your mind and what was it doing? Because in the end your mind is the one thing you have going for you when it comes to happiness. A deliberate mind, a mind that works consciously–choosing, at every turn, what you are saying, what you are doing, and what you are thinking–this is very, very hard to achieve, which is why you should start now. Cultivate those states of mind that actually produce happiness and cast out those that don’t. After a while you will find that you care much less about your own hopes and dreams and a lot more about other people. You will move in the direction of self-less-ness, which is a good thing, because if there is no self, who is it that has to die some day? There will be no one there to die. There will be no self. Die now, so you won’t have to do it later. Stop thinking about yourself every second of every day, which only produces boredom, dissatisfaction, fear, dread, anxiety, and hopelessness. Put yourself away and begin to find freedom. And you can find this freedom, which we might also call happiness. Your life can open toward greater happiness and greater freedom, and it is entirely up to you to make that happen. Because in the end you have the power to do it no matter what the universe seems to be like and no matter the challenges of our place and time. You really are in charge of your own happiness. Which is, I think, both exhilarating and terrifying. Wouldn’t it be nice if someone could do it for you? It’s such a daunting and important task, really the central task of life. But I urge you to work, on your own, or with the right mentors, or preferably, in both ways, as honestly and fiercely as you can on this matter of your own happiness. Don’t settle for the answers all around you that are not really answers. Don’t settle for a life of quiet desperation. And most of all, don’t settle for unhappiness. I want to tell you that happiness is possible, and that you don’t have to be despairing and afraid. But it’s up to you, to each of you, to seek out the wisdom that happiness requires. Not learning but wisdom, which is something else altogether. I wish you a long life, the better to find and deepen that wisdom. And I wish you happiness.
Wow, that was an amazing commencement speech; very deep and so utterly true. Selflessness, not selfishness, is the answer to real happiness!
Indeed, it’s an excellent speech and it addresses the realities of life in a post-modernistic society. I read Lesley’s posting, and the entire speech, and then found it on You Tube – and yes, you can hear the booing and heckling by the parents or guests though the students are either listening or clapping – and I’m sorry I didn’t get to hear a speech like that back in 1972 during my graduation, because even then many smoked marijuana, and some died, and there was the Vietnam War still going on, we had just gone through desegregation (my h.s.s was in the south), and some students were dealing with being gay, but addressing these realities would have been scandalous. Instead we heard a speech, as are more h.s. speeches, full of platitudes wanting to be uplifting but, in fact, telling us nothing. The parents of those students should be grateful that such a man as Guterson took the time to open his heart and soul and bring such a gem of a speech to their kids’ high school.
It’s been long since I read every word of a long speech.
Thank you David for giving writing this – you’ve put into black and white the dense fog that bothers me so, the one I feel but could never put together in words or thoughts.
And thank you Lesley for sharing it.
Oooooh, yes! I wish Guterson had spoken at my graduation, to give me an entry point for life’s journey. Who would boo this wisdom?
Thanks Lesley!
YES, he is ‘fiercely honest’ and real. Alas! he is talking to those who live in a world of instant gratification and running after fleeting pleasures. We don’t even understand the value of real happiness. We don’t miss something we can’t comprehend it exists.
He reminded me how any prophet must have felt when he tried to talk to his people steeped in ignorance and stubbornness. Maybe one day these people will read his words and regret showing the response they gave to his words of wisdom. We are surrounded by too much ‘sound and fury’ to listen to anything of significance and value.
He is very courageous and honest. God bless him for this act of bravery. If he couldn’t reach those present, he has reached many who will benefit from his excellent speech. Thanks to the world of the Internet and to you for bringing it to our attention.
” Die now so you won’t have to do later……” What a gem of a speech! We are so busy gathering cheap shiny rocks that we miss the real gems before our eyes.
Some might say that the occasion was not suitable for such deep philosophical wisdom because people are in a different mindset during such celebrations, but the reaction of the parents is inexcusable. That is precisely the time for a speech like this. GOOD for you, David. You KEPT CALM AND CARRIED ON!
Just excellent — here it is on YouTube:
David Guterson for giving this speech — WOW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF6Ahdwu_CQ
Apropos of “dying before you die”, what would life be like without the story of me?
Lesley – thanks for posting this! great stuff for young ears – be mindful and don’t believe all that ‘you are the most important person in the world’ stuff. agree that line about “die now” is a gem. shed the ego to find happiness…
What a great speech! I wish I had heard a speech like this in 1972 when I graduated from high school. Instead I heard the usual stuff about finding a high paying career and finding the perfect spouse and having a perfect family, etc. This man is brilliant. I wish there were more people who think like him.
I am sure there are plenty of people who think like him, nobody listens to them. Or they don’t bother speaking because they know that only money seems to count now. Not everyone wants to be rich and have all the things they think they should have but they feel a failure if they don’t get them. I believe that is why there are so many problems nowadays. Too much dissatisfaction, too much envy of what others have.
People should stop and think about what would really make them happy. They they should strive for that. Life is short and we are meant to be happy.
Imam Ali once said,happiness is when you are healthy,able to eat,able to sleep,being loved by others and prayers answered.
If you haven’t already heard of Mehdi Hasan, he’s the political editor of Huffington Post UK, the former political editor of The New Statesman, and stunningly eloquent. Plus he thinks even faster than he speaks. Here he is carrying the day at the Oxford Union in the debate on whether Islam is a peaceful religion (to my mind a false premise from the start, since no religion is either “a religion of peace” or “a religion of war” unless the majority of its followers make it so — and yes, I include atheism in this):
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy9tNyp03M0&w=560&h=315]
This is a very interesting speech. Whenever there is a mention of terrorists, it is always the Muslims or Hitler who are mentioned. Memories are short, the IRA used to be bombing a lot more regularly. They were political but also used the church to hide their weapons and maybe they were boy scouts in comparison to some terrorist organisations but people who are killed are dead whoever the culprit.
I do not agree with the use of any religion for violent ends but I also do not believe anyone who says this. It is all political or for their own ends, whether monetary or revenge.
Muslims may be accused of bigotry but there is plenty on all sides.
What a breath of fresh air after hearing Mehdi Hasan’s speech. I feel I’v been suffocating by listening to the wretched, dilapidated news outlets that is preached and spoonfed to us by mainstream media. There needs to be more people who have the audacity to speak, recognize truth, pursue knowledge instead of sitting there and taking the easy route by merely being goose-stepped into false assertions. Lesley Hazleton and Mehdi Hasan are emblematic to this approach.
As an ‘accidendat theologist’ and perhaps s
till sceptical you may not have percieved the ‘Peace’ concept in Islam.
Newly back in Seattle after an amazing couple of weeks, I’m jet-lagged, news-lagged, and above all, TED-lagged.
Eleven days ago, I was onstage at TEDGlobal in Edinburgh. The talk — on Muhammad, doubt, and the travesty of fundamentalism — may be released on TED.com as early as this coming week, but meanwhile, in the tease category, here’s a still shot:
The TED audience was beyond-words wonderful. I still can’t quite believe the generosity of their ovation. But how do you come down from such a high?
I hereby declare a new addition to the DSM-IV manual of psychiatric disorders: post-TED syndrome, which poses the patient with the problem of how to get her feet (let alone her head) firmly back to earth after a week of non-stop talk and ideas and excitement and superb company? (Plus some great music and dancing too).
Seven days ago, I took the back-to-earth idea literally. If you had been in possession of a pair of good binoculars, you would have found me roaming the wilds of Romney Marsh in Sussex, totally wind- and rain-blown, along with thousands of sheep and the most bullish lambs I’ve ever seen — sturdy little bruisers, each with a very distinctive vocal point to make about my presence. (On the menu that evening in nearby Rye: “Romney Marsh lamb.” My response: “Noooooo….!”)
Forward a bit, and four days ago I was doing my roaming in London, meeting my brilliant UK publishers over grappa in a club so private it has no name (British release of The First Muslim is set for November 7), doing tai-chi early mornings by the lavender field in Vauxhall Park (triple espresso at the ready), communing with the Rothkos at the Tate Modern, zipping along the Thames in water taxis, and downing elderberry lemonade and tahini-drizzled eggplant at Ottolenghi’s in Islington (his cookbook Plenty has the best recipe I’ve ever found for socca).
So today, back in my houseboat in pacific Seattle, my head is reeling from it all, and I have a new way of posing the post-TED problem: how do you get your feet back to earth when you live on a raft that floats on forty feet of water?
Another talk from you about Muhammad and more. WONDERFUL. Have just started reading your ‘The First Muslim’. I’m all ears already for the talk. Our planet needs more people like you, Lesley. You’ve been such an inspiration.Thanks!
no……please dont try to come down to eath or wherever….we love you in any state of gravity…..looking fwd to the Ted brilliance while i repeat the one on “reading of Quran” to restrain my excitement of hearing you again….wish Ted India invite you too…
love you more lesley….
nuzhat.
“The earth is my body, my head is in the stars.”
(spoken by Maude in the movie “Harold and Maude”, a wonderful little gem of a film from 1971)
Today I received your talk at TED. I can not find any word to discribe my appreciation about your latest work about prophet Mohammad’s biography. He is my forefather and my role model. I know him very well as if he lived today . Your thoughts about him are absolutely true. He would stand up to terrorist, suicide bombers, wars, discrimination by gender, race, wealth. I am fascinated with your curious mind, turning every stone to find the truth about Him. I will order the book immediately. You deserve every award in the world because your work and your contemplation about the truth is going to help thousands of people. You fullfiled great service to humanity for going after the truth! I salute you. You are also brave women because you stood up on your two feet against liers, mud throwers to prophet Mohammad. We are brothers and sisters as humanbeing and we must live at peace in this earth.
Not floating, but camel-riding, down-to-earth! The real deal.
Posted your talk on Facebook… Sending you Ya Fattahs for PTedS.
love, and a rain of blessings on your good work. T’m
Ah, it was you that sent down all that rain last night! Thank you. I love going to sleep to the sound of rain on the water…
What irony!
“We’ve allowed Judaism to be claimed by violently messianic West Bank settlers…”
It must be habituation that makes the truth so elusive to you. And it’s nothing new. Judaism has actually been hijacked, long ago, by agnostic intellectuals who “believe that they and they alone are right.”
How do you lump the likes of Baruch Goldstein and Yigal Amir, who are widely condemned among all Jews, together with Islamic suicide bombers who are memorialized and celebrated by many millions.
You are among the millions of Jewish liberal extremists who have sought acceptance by being self critical. How pathetic. In demonstrating your intellect, open mindedness and humanism, you persist in supporting the very forces that seek your destruction.
Yawn…
Apparently you didn’t catch what I said about “the Truth”.
Actually, I did. You talk about the arrogance of the extremists who claim a monopoly on the Truth.
Your dismissive tone suggests that you won’t dignify my challenge with an answer. Do you even own a mirror?
… Love the wit.
I also failed to thank you for the faith and doubt resonance thesis. But, agnostic Lesley, if you must subscribe to the Truth at least leave room for the truth of your heritage.
I subscribe to “the Truth”? Since when?
As to the “truth of my heritage,” one of the finest Jews I know of was Spinoza. And he was excommunicated by those who thought they owned “Truth.”
As my shuttle bus roared from downtown Seattle to the airport, i thought let me check ted.com and wisely use the ride time.
The words faith and doubt were carefully chosen by Les and they did the marketing job they were supposed to do and i clicked and she started!
I have to admit – I enjoyed the talk but there were information – based on my humble understanding – which were incorrect or let’s say are prone to wrong interpretation due to linguistic loss of fidelity for the lack of a better term.
Mohamad (pbuh) may have been in doubt about what he saw in the night of revelation but this is different than faith (defined as deeply rooted belief(s)) . That instance could be described as experience and yes many books refer to it as such and agree with what she said about leaping of a cliff, etc…
But the fact the he was in the cave is actually because he had a different faith than those who surrounded him and he used that time to reflect and further his beliefs.
The opposite of doubt is certainty and the opposite of knowledge is ignorance. Fanatism is not the result of certainty but ignorance. Mohamad did not have doubt (that is the wrong word to use) he needed knowledge and that is what that divine revelation came to give him […]
Lack of knowledge is abundant and the more know the more he realizes how humble his knowledge is and thus is willing to accept another opinion and the converse is true.
Wishing guidance to all mankind – a fellow human
But the point is surely that I do not define faith as “deeply rooted belief.” In fact as I see it, real faith defies the certainty of definition…
This posting has generated quite a few responses, some thought-provoking and as usual one or two, well…
Anyway, I took the time to listen several times to your talk Lesley and jotted the following excerpt in my journal:
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“Real faith has no easy answers…it involves an ongoing struggle, a continued questioning of what we think we know, a wrestling with issues and ideas. It goes hand in hand with doubt, a never-ending conversation with it, and sometimes in conscious defiance of it…”
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As a “somewhat agnostic catholic”, I found it very interesting that in 2007 the Vatican was a bit upset that a priest took it upon himself to publish Mother Theresa’s private letters in which she revealed that she had doubts about the existence of God and lamented the absence of a personal sense of Jesus’ love in her life. She wrote that at times when she was in church and prayed, she felt as if there was no one there. Some people thought less of her knowing this, some atheists rejoiced, and the Vatican whimpered.
Your view regarding faith replies perfectly to the conundrum Mother Theresa seemed to face, questioning, struggling, wrestling with issues and in so being, probably made her stronger spiritually and to the rest of us, more human.
Enjoyed your talk, but not sure that either side of this conversation (faith-doubt, certainty-uncertainty, theist-atheist, etc.) gets us closer to empathy — to compassion — to loving one another.
After 6 years of TED Conferences, I know what you mean. A week of high-intensity, non-stop creativity among amazing people, and then the brutal home crash for a few days.
Hope we can chat F2F in Vancouver next year.
Do we have to love one another? Isn’t it enough — more than enough — that we let each other live?
Vancouver would be good. — L.
Indifference, isolation, apathy, neglect. Many would see these as problems.
Totally agreed. But compassion seems to me insufficient — almost passive, in fact, and that passivity is precisely what you’re talking about. I’d advocate a kind of waking up: to social responsibility, to involvement, to the recognition that we’re all in this together, and action on the basis of that recognition.
Hi Lesley,
I started to read your book ” First Muslim” this week. Certainly it is a unique approach that no writer took until now about Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him. There fore your book is filling this very important gap on the biography of Prophet Mohammad ( PBUH). You did put hundred hours of contemplation about his human side. As a person who contemplates a lot I do appreciate your contemplations and sharing them with rest of the world. Lots of hours of searching truth brought this beautiful realistic book about Him. ” there is no other worship more valuable than contemplation” said Prophet Mohammad. And in many verses in Quran Allah urges us to contemplate. Because that is how we can reach the truth by separating truth from falsehood. You are asking questions everything around you just like example of Prophet Abraham given at the Quran. Who ever seeks Allah, Allah guides them to Himself. And who ever finds him fulfills her/ his purpose of life. Who ever doesn’t find him they lose only chance given to her/ him to be among the friends of Allah. Ultimate happiness or true love is felling in love with Allah.
This video got a big grin from me. I suspect it’ll do the same for everyone who’s often asked “where are you from?” because it’s a perfect debunking of the assumptions and condescension lurking behind that question:
[youtube=http://youtu.be/DWynJkN5HbQ]
That’s so funny I must remember that the next time someone asks me where I am from. As a White British Muslim who wears hijab both in Saudi and in Britain it’s the most constantly ask question. I don’t fit the stereotype
So since it looks like I’ll be traveling quite a bit in the foreseeable future, I thought it might be an idea to register with Homeland Security’s trusted-traveler program and thus avoid the hassle and long lines at airport security. Which is how come I turned up yesterday at SeaTac’s US Customs and Border Protection office for my interview.
I did kind of wonder how it might go in light of the fact that The First Muslim has just been published. What would Homeland Security make of this? Should I even mention it? Were they likely to make a biographer of Muhammad a trusted traveler, or would stereotype win the day so that the subject alone would set off alarms in the bureaucratic mind? There was only one way to find out.
The interview didn’t start off on quite the right note.
“Sorry to hear about Margaret Thatcher’s passing,” said the Customs and Borders officer when I told him that I had a British passport as well as an American one.
“I can’t say I am,” I replied before I could bite my tongue. “Not least because my father was a doctor in the National Health Service, which she did her best to dismantle.”
“Sorry,” he said, “I shouldn’t make assumptions.”
And with that he had my interest. I hadn’t expected that apology.
“You’re a writer?” he said. “What do you write about?”
“Religion and politics.” And with that I had his interest.
“Big subject!” he said.
“Which you could say is why we’re here in this office right now,” I replied.
We both smiled kind of ruefully.
He pulled up the US customs record of my travels. “So you focus on the Middle East?”
“Of course. It’s where all three of the major monotheisms began, and it’s where religion and politics are most intricately intertwined.”
“Isn’t that so,” he said. “In fact that’s what I studied.” Turns out he’d majored in Middle East history — specifically the 1920s to the 1940s. “The Brits seem to have had a lot to do with creating today’s Middle East.”
“With a little help from the French, true,” I said. “They have a lot to answer for. As do we, especially since we went marching into Iraq with no idea of what was really happening there…” Oh god, what was I saying to an official of the US government?
Yet he was nodding, though whether in agreement or in acknowledgment of my hopelessly liberal point of view wasn’t clear until he said: “We all need to know much more history.”
And that was my cue. I reached into my pocket and handed him my card — the one with the cover of The First Muslim on the front. “This might help some,” I said.
He studied it a moment, and then: “Interesting! Thank you. I have to read this.”
The next thing I knew he was taking my photograph and my fingerprints (on a neat little machine glowing with green light), explaining the intricacies of how to use my newly approved trusted-traveler status, and giving me his card.
As I picked up a coffee before wandering out of the airport, it occurred to me to ask why I was surprised at how relaxed and sensible the interview had been.
Partly, I think, we’re so used to inane encounters with low-level TSA contract employees in the security lines that it’s easy to forget that there actually are intelligent people higher up the line.
Partly, as an immigrant to the US, my experience years ago of dealing with another branch of what is now Homeland Security, namely the Immigration and Naturalization Service, had been downright Kafkaesque. (In fact I’d have said that the INS officials I encountered then had deliberately out-Kafkaed Kafka, except that I knew they’d never even heard of him.)
And partly too, of course, there’s the Orwellian Big Brother aspect of Homeland Security — the awareness that one way or another, we are all, however innocent, under surveillance.
That may be one more thing the Brits, among others, have to answer for.
Keep in mind the location where you interviewed. Your experience might have been very different if you were in Alabama or Arkansas for example……
What a joy to encounter a positive experience when you least expect it.
good job, Leslie! … nice to see you picture shining out from the pages last Sunday’s NYT
I’m glad the fellow was respectful. But the system itself is the problem: the fact that you had to go in and have an interview in order to be able to travel freely about the world without hassles is unacceptable.
love this, Leslie….we are so tuned into the very real Orwellian world of today that we are constantly on guard….expecting the worst all the time!
and cuedos for being honest about your country of origin….true love of country only comes when we recognize all frailities and acknowledge them…
You are lucky that he was a fan of yours. It is such a pity that the common person usually meets the ‘low level contract employee’ and they are the face of the government. The whole world carries the low level image in their minds and not of the erudite and educated boss sitting in a back office.
He wasn’t a fan — just an intelligent, educated man alert to his own assumptions, and doing a tricky job well.
I am as distrustful as anyone (notice I did not say paranoid, which is by definition irrational) about security and our loss of freedoms, but I know Janet Napolitano (Secretary of Homeland Security) pretty well (she used to be governor of Arizona, where I live) and there is no one I would prefer to entrust my security to. It’s really a hassle getting on an airplane now, but it may be the safest place on earth. There are many trade-offs, and no one wants to be inconvenienced, and for me it is NOT better to be safe than free, but it’s always good to see each other as human beings.
To be honest, I’m not surprised. I wouldn’t have been surprised the other way ’round, either, but I’ve regularly met awesome folks who are in non-awesome jobs, or who choose to make their jobs the best with what they can do. Thrilled to hear your report. Also curious to know of how much benefit the frequent-traveler thing is… have thought of doing it myself. Worth the effort? Let us know.
And you’ve seen this, right? “Prague’s Franz Kafka International Named World’s Most Alienating Airport,” by the Onion?
http://www.hulu.com/watch/64166
I really enjoyed your piece but I did feel that your comment about there actually being higher up workers who are intelligent might have been a bit of a generalization. I am sure there are many low-level workers who are just as intelligent, who may not have had the same opportunities as others. I really like your work, just wanted to point that out!
Let me say this upfront: I’m lousy at interfaith gatherings. They tend to have an oddly stilted feel. There’s something of Tarzan and Jane about them: “Me Jew, you Muslim, we friends.” Far better, I’ve long thought, to get together on a small scale, over the dinner table. Cook together, break bread together, drink together, and allow the conversation to develop without that weirdly over-determined self-consciousness.
That’s part of what so impressed me in the response of New Zealanders Khayreyah Amani Wahaab and her husband Jason Kennedy to an Islamophobic rant (Muslims shouldn’t be allowed on airplanes, etc) by Richard Prosser, a New Zealand member of parliament: as I reported here, they invited him to dinner.
And he came to dinner. Here’s Khayreyah’s post on it last night on her Facebook page:
Mr Richard Prosser has just left our house after having a lovely dinner of home-cooked tandoori chicken, salad and roti with raitha. He was very realistic about owning the words he said, but was very clear that whilst he is never going to apologize to terrorists, he is very apologetic and contrite about the hurt and whatever damage he has caused the rest of the Muslim community. He understands, accepts and recognises that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorist types and have the same fears, values and aspirations that he does.
We both agreed that aviation security is a wider issue that does need to be addressed [Kahyreyrah has a degree in aviation management — LH], as well as that of Muslims having a louder voice in condemning extremists and their actions. Jason and I both thanked him in the end, since if it wasn’t for his brash words written in a news column, then we would not have identified these needs, that ultimately will benefit the entirety of New Zealand. All three of us are willing to forge a way forward for Muslims in New Zealand in order to make it a happier, safer place, and leading the world in Islamic – Western relations.
Richard did say, interestingly, that of all the mail, comments etc he received from people following the article, our letter by far made him feel worse than all the others. He finds himself to be a person who can deal with anger and resentment being directed towards him but felt out of place dealing with outreach born of love and a desire for understanding. Ultimately both sides agreed that we need to see each other as a whole and not just what the media had chosen to portray, that we cannot expect fair judgement if only one facet of ourselves are exposed to said judgement. We ended the night with a short TedX video of Lesley Hazleton’s talk about being a tourist in the Quran and we promised to have future interactions with a view to improving NZ as a whole. — with Jason Kennedy
Glad to have played a small supporting role.
The moral is, we need to see each other as a whole and not just what media has chosen to portray.
Ms.Hazleton,I watched and listened attentively to your talk on Quran,more than once.It is amazing and enrich my understanding.Thank you for your objective take on Islam.However,I think you should lay your claim on frontiers explored.What becomes of an explorer if after exploring the uncharted areas then just leave to others to benefit.You have found Islam,accept it.
Thank you, but… I respect your Islam; please respect my agnosticism.
Sharing a community meal used to have a powerful symbology; it meant that all who shared were part of the same tribe. As sharing in a family meal meant that all who shared were part of the same family, in Semitic culture, within the boundaries of the “haram”. Worse yet if it involved sharing food that was not as “chalal/kosher” as what you normally ate. What if they were dressed or undressed in a strange way?
This is a powerful challenge to our sense of self and of belonging (both of the ego), inciting the strongest prejudiced response in all people. How would you feel if some stranger entered your home without asking, sat down at your table, and proceeded to eat a meal with you using your supplies and his, in the presence of your own family members? That would take great forbearance for anyone to tolerate.
How much more would it take to get beyond mere tolerance to a full embrace of “the other”? Though each society has its own way of de-fanging “the other” or its own children thru the customs of hospitality and parenting. Perhaps it is enough to realize that “the other” sees us just as much a stranger as we see them. Yet this is essentially the problem we have in a global village that we were unprepared for. Difference in metaphysics is small compared to our preference for the familiar.
Made me think of the phrase “getting to know each other” — emphasis on “other.” The progression from ‘they’ to ‘you’ to ‘we.’
By Jove, you’ve got it! Human beings usually live with profoundly unconscious and unexamined reflexes learned in infancy and childhood … that much Dr Freud may be correct about. Usually our conscious beliefs are concocted to provide a rationalization for these reflexes, though usually profoundly simple (nudity, eating, touching et al), they are very hard to address with any skepticism, if we can be brought to think about them at all.
Personal boundaries are a big assumption … starting with our own personhood and extending out to our many associates in complicated inter-related rings. A conversion experience if one has one, involves a profound reorientation of this whole architecture. We articulate in our thought, spoken language, and written language, a blueprint of all of this, from our own “north pole” position, as vast as our ability to attach labels to the sum of our human experience.
The pronouns are among the oldest and most conservative words in any language (explicit or implicit depending on the language). I, thou, he/she/it, we, y’all (in my own dialect) and they. Sometimes these pronouns are “sexed” with two or more genders in languages more complicated than English (not a legitimate language, but a creole or pidgin), making this even more complicated. In some languages which pronoun you use even depends on your social class and the social class of the person you are addressing.
belated reply
i think ignorance plus arrogance is what truly separates us.
and therin lies the problem, so your blog goes a long way to bringing us all together, so i agree with your progression from “me’ to “thee” keep up the good work, Lesley!
When things seemed to be getting ever worse in the Middle East — as they always seemed to, and still do — we’d look at each other and say, wistfully, “There’s always New Zealand.” New Zealand, for us, was the image of peacefulness, where nothing ugly ever happened. We didn’t enquire too closely.
But of course even New Zealand has its bigots. Like Richard Prosser, a Member of Parliament from the right-wing New Zealand First party, who two days ago published an ugly Islamophobic rant suggesting, among other things, that Muslims be banned from air travel.
So an Auckland Muslim sat down and wrote an open letter in response, and today it appeared in The New Zealand Herald. I”m running it in full here because I’m bowled over by the wisdom and grace of it, and because it gets better and better as it goes on:
Dear Mr Prosser,
Unbeknown to myself, I am your enemy.
I consider this strange as I have never met you and harbour no ill will toward you. I am certain that if I walked past you on the street your suspicions would not be raised. If you were a customer in my shop I am certain you would not suspect that I pose your family any risk. For you see, I am Muslim, I am 30, and I am also white. Throw in the fact that I am an American expatriate – accent and all – and I possess quite the subterfuge. After all, I could sit next to you on a flight, our arms negotiating the armrest for space, and you would think nothing of it. And yet if between us the subject of religion arose, my reply would disable you with fear.
Or so your column would lead me to believe.
I am writing an open letter to you out of sympathy, respect, and the desire for understanding. I do not write this so publicly in order to give your opinions greater status than they deserve. Instead, I hope to circumvent your vitriol from tainting the views of other people who, through lack of personal experience with the Muslim community, may be susceptible to your very limited and ignorant view of our religion and families.
I will start by, ironically, providing you with some defence. It is absolutely your right to speak your mind freely with whatever opinions you so wish. That is one of the great liberties of this nation.But let me be clear: speaking your mind is your right as a private citizen. As a Member of Parliament, you are a public servant, and your public opinions need to be more carefully delivered. You must be aware that the words of MPs are granted greater political legitimacy than those of private citizens.
It is frightening when someone with so much power to sway the opinions of others is so cavalier in his delivery. We entrust MPs to make defensible, rational, and sympathetic judgments in pursuit of the common good. Counter to this, your words seek to generate divisiveness by fostering an indefensible ‘us’ versus ‘them’ mentality.
Do you actually believe Muslims are so different to you that we should be trusted less than any other human being? Wherefore this presumption that those who commit terrible crimes in the name of Islam are actually considered heroes or true Muslims by the rest of us? Are we really so homologous to you? Woe to the Sikh or Hindu who you might accidentally recognise for a Muslim in your eagerness to incite fear, all the while I, the unrecognisable white Muslim, sits next to you.
For you see, if the subject of religion is never broached between us, you will feel safer the entire trip knowing you sit next to a safe and reliable Pakeha. Let me assure you, I want that plane to land safely just as much as you do. I have family and friends who I want to be around for a good long time, and so do they.
The only reason I can think that you would harbour such ill-sentiment is that you have very little first-hand experience with Muslims. I can relate. I was not born into a Muslim family. However, with age I came to recognise my beliefs were congruent with Islam. That seemed a bit of a scary prospect, as I am sure you can appreciate that there is a great deal of Islamophobia in the United States, as well.
Once I actually met some Kiwi Muslims, I quickly realised my presumptions were entirely inaccurate. Muslim culture is not some monolithic fiction. Muslims are just like the majority of Kiwis: we love our summer barbecues, we avidly follow the All Blacks’ domination of rugby, we wear jandals, we buy fish n’ chips down the road. You see, Muslims come from all different backgrounds. I was born in the US and descend from Irish stock. My wife was born in Fiji, and her Indian ancestors were relocated during the British slave trade. Many Kiwi Muslims are from India, the Middle East, east Africa, Indonesia, and Malaysia. We have all come here to share in what it means to be Kiwi. Between us we have a similar pathway to God, but we also respect that every non-Muslim is on their own pathway to God.
Your family and my family, we are each equally Kiwi, despite the fact that we may worship differently. We are equal to you in many other ways: my wife and I both happily pay the highest tax rate, our business creates revenue and employment for many New Zealanders, and our education benefits the New Zealand economy. We are even socially and politically active (gasp!).
If you think supporting terror is somehow intrinsic to Islam, or is somehow an inevitability of our religion, ask anyone in the Muslim community here: no one supports any act of violence or terror against any other living being, human or animal. That is what we call haram in Islam, which means “forbidden by God”. We have no support for terrorists who do such horrible things, and we cannot understand how they can call themselves Muslims. Their actions are entirely incompatible with Islam.
In order to establish better communication on this issue, my wife and I would like to invite you to dinner at our place the next time you are in Auckland. We would like to hear your story, and we would like to share ours. I believe that if you would grant us the pleasure of your company, it will give you a much more enlightened perspective on Muslims and Islam in general. I will leave my contact details with the editor if you wish to make good on our offer.
Two enemies who wish
to be your friends,
Jason (Naveed) Kennedy and
Khayreyah Wahaab
Update: Prosser has accepted the invitation to dinner. I’m sorely tempted to start a contest for suggestions as to what will be on the menu, but that wouldn’t do justice to the spirit of Jason Kennedy and Khayreyah Wahaab. Talk about the better angels of our nature…!
Please, anyone reading this, don’t think that most New Zealanders share this man’s bigotry. I lived and worked there for the bulk of my vocational life and my children are Kiwis. Maori culture, they say, runs like a golden thread through the whole country and its people and elicits a tolerance and comradeship.
Honestly this is what every Muslim thinks who is interacting with such non Muslims. Because of some people why to condemn all Muslims, why to blame Islam? He said it all. In everyday life you and me are not different, yes our believes are different, so are our faces, our personalities, our whole lives are different from each other and still we both are, we all are humans, sharing this beautiful earth and universe. Isn’t it so?
I live in NZ and remember the disbelief and shock when I heard it on the radio, I have not met anyone who has agreed with this view and I feel sad it makes headlines elsewhere.
This is not a typical kiwi thinking or belief.
lovely letter, like the invite to dinner bit…perfect.
also, to make a point, Eastern European Muslims are white, and you could easily be sitting next to a Muslim from Eastern Europe…..the world never seems to learn and it is so sad
I wish I could say that Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi’s anti-Semitism surprised me half as much as it seemed to surprise The New York Times. (“Egyptians should nurse our children and grandchildren on hatred” for Jews and Zionists, Morsi declared in a videotaped speech three years ago. “They have been fanning the flames of civil strife wherever they were throughout history. They are hostile by nature.”)
But the rampant use of anti-Semitic imagery in political rhetoric both in Egypt and in other Muslim countries (“apes,” “pigs,” “bloodsuckers,” said Morsi) is hardly news. It comes right out of the convoluted paranoia of The Protocols of the Elders of the Zion, which far too many Egyptians still take for fact instead of the fictional fake it was long ago proved to be. What concerns me is how it seeps into even the best-intentioned minds, in far less obvious but nonetheless insidious ways.
Consider, for instance, an exchange like this one, which I seem to have had a number of times over the past several years:
— “What do the Jews think they’re doing in Gaza?”
— “The Jews? All Jews? Which Jews?”
— “The Israelis, of course.”
— “Which Israelis?”
— “Well, the Israeli government.”
— “So why do you not say ‘the Israeli government’ instead of ‘the Jews’?”
This is what you might call the low-level shadow of anti-Semitism. My interlocutors (I love/hate that word) would never dream of using Morsi’s inflammatory language of hatred. They’re liberal and moderate American Muslims (some are believing mosque-goers, others self-described agnostics or atheists). And yet even they are not always immune to that conflation of politics and ethnicity, of Israeli policy and Jewishness.
Each time such an exchange occurs, there’s a pause in the conversation — a moment of discomfort as my interlocutor (that word again!) realizes what I’m responding to. And then comes a nod of acknowledgement, one that takes considerable courage, since none of us appreciate being called to account. Call it a small moment of sanity.
I recognize this because it’s mirrored in Israel, where talk of “the Arabs” — a generalization as bad as “the Jews” — veers more and more not just into outright racism, but into a kind of gleeful pride in that racism, as shown in David Remnick’s long piece on “Israel’s new religious right” in the current New Yorker.
Israeli politicians have taken to presenting themselves as defenders of “the Jewish people,” regularly using “Jew” as a synonym for “Israeli,” even though — or because — over 20% of Israeli citizens are Muslim or Christian Arabs. They do this deliberately, of course, just as the Morsi-type anti-Semitic rhetoric is deliberate. The emotional resonance of “Jew” is deeper and far older than that of “Israeli,” and thus far more useful as a carrier of both covert and overt pride and prejudice.
As a Jew I find this political claim to represent me both insulting and obnoxious. Like an increasing number of American Jews, I’m appalled by the policies of the Netanyahu government (let alone those of its predecessors), and at the development of what has clearly become an apartheid regime. I deeply resent being lumped together with the Netanyahus of this world — and I equally deeply resent the attempt by the Netanyahus of this world to lump themselves in with me and define my Jewishness. How dare they? And how dare Morsi?
I’d ask “have they no shame?” but the answer is obvious.
I am surprised that Egyptian President Morsi is described as antisemite. Morsi too is a semite. Anti-semetism according to history tracks originated from the Christians who claimed that the Jews killed Jesus one of their brethen […] Your accusation means that you are acclaiming President Morsi as a non follower of Muhammad Rasulullah […]
Antisemitism needs to be called out, not excused. The same, I might remind you, goes for Islamophobia.
The case for antisemitism as anti-Islamic could indeed be persuasively made, and needs to be made far more, by Muslims. Instead, too many argue precisely the opposite.
Lesley, I quote your words.
“The case for antisemitism as anti-Islamic could indeed be persuasively made, and needs to be made far more, by Muslims. Instead, too many argue precisely the opposite.”
I am a Muslim, but I cannot agree more with you on this. Islam does not advocate hatred for Jews as a people. The Prophet’s many interactions with the Jews of Madinah prove the opposite. For Muslims the father of Jews, Israel (Jacob) and their leader Moses are beloved figures. The quarrel that arose between sections of the latter days Jews and Muslims in Madinah is not a racial one, but a political issue. Today, if the democrats and republicans don’t see eye to eye, does it mean there is hatred between them?. Today’s Muslims’ view of Jews has become conditioned by the actions of the State of Israel.
Muhammad Siddique
Lesley, I have been in similar discussions from an early age. I always try to redirect the speaker: “You mean zionist, don’t you?” or, “you mean Israeli, don’t you?” There is no political correctness movement or enlightenment in the Middle East to help people un-learn their bigotry.
A generation ago, Jews, Muslims and Christian Arabs lived together throughout the middle east. Many went to mixed schools and had friends of other religions. Now, this is restricted, even where the different groups co-exist. It is a tremendous loss. It is so much easier to paint people with a broad brush when you don’t actually know them.
You ask “which Jews” but I think it is not correct to turn a blind eye on the sentiments of the mainstream citizen of Israel. It is well documented that the Jewish people living in Israel see the Arabs inferior. I also remember reading in the news that the Israeli drafted soldiers (which means regular people, not professional killing machines) wearing t-shirts with visuals that implies they delightfully killed Arabs, or Israeli school children writing massages on bomb shells that they know will explode in a village in Palestine.
Years of violence poisoned everybody in that unfortunate corner of the middle east. I hope they get back to their senses soon.
You might want to read my post again and examine your own thinking, Hakan. “The Jewish people living in Israel see the Arabs as inferior,” you say. Really? Not some, not even many, but all of them? Thanks for denying the existence of, among others, Israeli liberal activists and reporters, without whose work we would know little of what’s happening in the West Bank and Gaza. Instead, you repeat apocryphal tales from unsubtantiated sources — basically, urban legends based in prejudice. Years of violence have poisoned many people, true. But not “everybody.”
Of course no society on earth is monolithic. I actually used the term “mainstream”. I don’t blame all the Israelis. I thought I made that clear enough.
Let me give you an example to make what I argue easier to understand. Do you think is it logical to claim that only the Nazis are to blame for the shoah? Or the German people, who elected them knowing what Hitler was up to, are also guilty? Of course there were good Germans too, some even committed suicide instead of being a part of that society. But we can absolutely say there was a serious problem with the “majority” of the German society at that time.
Just like that, are we to blame Sharon, Netenyahu or Liberman alone, or the people who elect them and let them govern Israeli too?
To repeat, I am not anti- anything and condemn Morsi’s statement.. I just say if people blame the “Israeli people” for what’s going on there, we need to stop and think if there is a truth in that statement, instead of fending them off by saying only the government is to blame.. We need to see the problem to correct it. Of course you know all of these better than me, I just wanted to remind.
P.S. They are not urban legends, but documented realities:
http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/racist-and-sexist-military-shirts-show-the-fruits-of-israeli-militarism.html
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/israeli-children-sign-their-missiles_18.html
just a couple links.
I stand (and sit) corrected. Poisonous thinking spreads — and we all need to stand against it, wherever it is. In Israel, in Egypt, in the US, in Turkey, anywhere. Glad you’re on board.
Only an agnostic can be even-handed. I do appreciate your piece. I watched your recent video defending Prophet Mohamed before large audience under the title Muhammad, you and me. Keep up your good work. But surely, I am no agnostic.
I’m still thinking about a single word from a movie I saw last month — a difficult, transcendent movie about love. Real love.
Amour is not an easy film, and it’s certainly not for anyone who’s afraid of ageing, let alone anyone nurturing fantasies of immortality. Written and directed by the hard-edged Michael Haneke, it’s about a loving, companiable couple in their early eighties, played by two veterans of the French new wave: Emmanuelle Riva (Alain Resnais’ classic Hiroshima Mon Amour) and Jean-Louis Trintignant (Claude Lelouch’s A Man and a Woman). And it’s about what happens when she has a stroke — a relatively minor one — and then another, devastating one…
I saw it at a small private screening, and thought it beautiful — quietly courageous, uncommonly real, and truly loving in a way that goes so far beyond Hollywood stereotypes as to make them hollow caricatures of humanity. So I was quite dismayed when others there called it depressing. It was too long, they said. It made them uncomfortable. It dwelled too much on the small details of life. It took far too long it took to arrive at its inevitable denouement.
All these things were part of what made me admire the movie so. And why I went home convinced that it would win no awards.
What a delight to be so very wrong! Though I didn’t yet know it, Amour had already won the Palme d’Or at Cannes, and was now being talked about as the front-runner for the best foreign-film Oscar (thus the private screening copy) — talk that ramped up this past weekend when it won the Los Angeles Film Critics Award for best picture of 2012. The Oscars might actually redeem themselves this year.
But what’s stuck with me ever since I saw the movie — and the reason I’ll see it again — is one seemingly simple detail in the couple’s everyday life:
Whenever one does something for the other, even something as minor as putting a cup of coffee on the table or taking the empty cup to the sink, the other says “Merci.”
That’s it — a simple thank you. Said not automatically, but not with great stress either. Said quietly, but appreciatively. “You mean it was polite,” someone said. But no, that was not at all what I meant. This was far more than mere politeness (I grew up in England, so I know how shallow politeness can be): this was courteous. Real courtesy: an acknowledgment of the other’s existence — of the small kindnesses and fond accommodations that make up the couple’s daily life together. It was, in a beautiful phrase I heard over the dinner table just last night, part of “the rhythm of connection.”
The word is said, in its quiet, companiable way, many times before the second stroke deprives the wife of speech. So it hovers in the air, unsaid, when she can no longer speak. In the end, when her husband finally brings himself to do what he knows she wants him to do, I found myself saying thank you for her.
I don’t want to act the spoiler, so I won’t spell it out for you. Enough to say that yes, death can be a courtesy all its own. And as it happened, I thought “Yes, that’s real love.”
Great review of a film that i have heard great things about and cannot wait to see. One minor niggle that did bother me and kind of spolit the review for me personally was ….”(I grew up in England, so I know how shallow politeness can be)”…… being several generations British and being British born and bred i had politeness drummed into me by my very Victorian like parents……being polite was a sign of breeding and good manners, and showed courtesy to other people. Seeing in today’s society i have noticed a distinct lack of good manners…..if you do get politeness from someone in Great Britain it was because they were raised in a good way to show manners to other people and not because they are being shallow.
Ah, but that’s exactly the differentiation I was trying to make — between having “politeness drummed into you,” as you put it, and a deeper, more genuine appreciation of others. Between good manners, that is, and real connection between individuals.
That said, you make a good point: Social politeness, from a check-out clerk’s “Have a nice day” to a quick “Sorry” at having accidentally jostled someone in a crowded subway or nearly poked them in the eye with an umbrella, is vital to the quality of civic life — but really only appreciated when it’s said in such a way that makes you feel it’s genuine.
Dear Ms Hazleton. I loved this piece of writing so much, I couldn’t help spread the word. So I translated this article into Turkish and posted it today in my blog here: http://birtekask.blogspot.ch/2012/12/misafir-yazar-leslie-hazleton.html
I gave proper credit to you saying that this was written by you and published in your blog on December 11. There are also two links to your blog.
Please let me know if you agree with this. If not, I will delete it immediately.
(Can’t wait to read the First Muslim…)
Kind regards,
Hande
Hande — but of course! Re-posting something I’ve written, with acknowledgment, is a high compliment. Taking the time and care to translate it first: an even higher compliment. Letting me know: a lovely courtesy. Thank you — Lesley
Thank you for writing this and everything else you write. I am very much inspired by your passion to communicate.
Will be following…
Lesley, I had to translate this following statement to you; I liked it so much… It is a comment to my blog about your article. A friend says “Thank you so much for introducing Lesley Hazleton to me. I was first intrigued by her article, then her books and her TED talk. I listened. Her voice, her expression, her talent in communication… I loved it! It is as if she hand-picks the words, dives into them to discover the real meanings, and offers them to us. I cannot wait to get her books. I also wrote to her. Thank you again very much.
Dear Ms Hazleton,I am very gratefull to Hande to present you to me.I read some of your writings and listened your Ted talkings.loved them
.I want to write so many things but I will only say THANK YOU.Because you know the meanings of “a simple thank you”.I will also try to read your books.
Best regards,figen
I stood. I paced. I sat down and immediately hopped up again. I fiddled with rubber bands until they broke. I tried to follow six or seven websites at the same time — when I wasn’t staring at the two big screens set up at Town Hall Seattle. Every now and then I’d sneak out for a smoke, only to stub it out after a few pulls because I had to rush back in again to check what was happening.
I tried to reassure myself by putting my faith in Nate Silver, the meta-analyst who’d repeatedly said to pay no attention to the pundits and who’d calmly analyzed the data and predicted an Obama victory of over 300 electoral votes. I mean, I do have faith in Nate Silver, but hey, what kind of faith is it that never gets tested?
The signs were encouraging: on the state level, bigots and rape-defenders and all-out idiots being defeated, and good, intelligent people winning. But that popular vote was still so close, and Florida kept changing from pink to baby blue and back to pink again, and I wanted to march up on the stage with a dark-blue marker and simply color it in…
So when the magic mark of 270 electoral votes came up far earlier than anyone expected, yes I cheered and whooped and hugged and high-fived both friends and total strangers, but what I felt more than anything else was relief. Sanity had prevailed — narrowly, but clearly. And decency had prevailed.
There was no cluster-fuck in Florida. The right-wing attempt to suppress the vote failed, with people waiting for hours to cast their ballots (“we have to fix that,” said the president, and he might look to Washington state, with its all mail-in ballot system, for the fix). And I confess it was a pleasure to switch occasionally to Fox News and see the somber faces.
Big money failed, and several billionaires were left holding a bad investment in Romney/Ryan. Marriage equality passed in Maine and Maryland, and is ahead here in Washington state — the first time a majority of voters have endorsed it, as opposed to its being decided on by legislators. Ditto with legalization of marijuana in two states, giving the lie to the so-called “war on drugs.”
Just two decades ago, all of this would have been unthinkable. A black president being elected to a second term? Laughable. Gay marriage? Absurd. Legal pot? Gimme a break…
So yes, we do move forward. In fits and starts. Three steps forward, two and a half steps back. We fight off insanity, and redefine sanity: not Obama’s dream rhetoric of “a perfect union,” but the real, down-to-earth and difficult work of balancing pragmatism and idealism.
No elation today, then, not here: just a huge sense of relief. And a renewed faith in the idea that one way or another, whatever the odds, sanity can prevail.
I share your relief & very much enjoy reading your postings.
Wish we had been together to watch the returns come in; it would have been a joy to celebrate with you — or at least to heave a very large sigh with you.
Today’s been sobering by comparison, reading the awful reactions of so many right-wingers who are convinced our country is being destroyed. How to reach across the aisle and work together when there is so much divisiveness and negativity?
Darling, you posted a running thread of what we all went through yesterday and thank you for documenting the emotional roller coaster. Today, we are jubilant, but also understand that the tsunami of backlash is about to crest. Stay diligent everyone.
There I was, agnostic Jewish me, eager as a teen music fan to meet an Episcopal bishop at Town Hall Seattle on Monday night, to shake his hand and thank him for his courage.
Then Hurricane Sandy intervened. The bishop’s flight was canceled, so I went home and read his new book, God Believes in Love: Straight Talk About Gay Marriage.
Which is how come I can now tell you that if you can read this book and not fall in love with Bishop Gene Robinson, head of the Episcopal Diocese of New Hampshire, then there is something seriously amiss with the state of your soul, let alone your heart and your mind.
Robinson was married – to a woman – for 15 years. Now he’s married again – to a man. This second marriage has lasted 25 years, and has led to multiple death threats against him, forcing him at times to wear a bullet-proof vest in public. It’s also created an absurd rift within the Episcopal church. And it’s brought out the big guns in his support. There are only two blurbs on the back of this beautifully lucid book, but both are from Nobel Peace Laureates: one from a guy called Obama, and the other from a guy called Tutu.
Robinson directly addresses ten FAQs on marriage equality, among them: “Why should you care about gay marriage if you’re straight?”
His answer, and mine: “It’s the civil rights issue of our time.” Why did white activists put themselves in the line of fire in the 1960s? They weren’t black; they could always have claimed that it wasn’t “their” battle. Except of course it was. As Emma Lazarus put it – she of “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free” – “Until we are all free, we are none of us free.”
Besides, if you think gay rights don’t affect your straight life, you’re living in as alternative a universe as Mitt Romney. As Robinson points out, “Orthodox Jews, conservative Muslims, and fundamentalist Christians are just as likely to raise a gay son or daughter as any other mother or father.”
Think about that: Wherever you are as you read this, and no matter what you think about same-sex marriage, chances are that at least one person close to you – someone you know and love and wish everything good for — is gay. So what do you wish for that person if you call the love they feel for someone else an abomination? The only abomination involved here is in calling love an abomination.
Still think “This isn’t my fight” because you’re not gay? Robinson has this to say:
No it isn’t. Unless you care about the kind of society we have. Unless you want the society of which you are a part to be a just one. Unless you believe that a free society, not to mention a godly religion, should fight injustice wherever it is found… Unless you care about our children. Unless fairness matters to you. Unless violence against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people concerns you. Unless ‘liberty and justice for all’ is something you believe applies to all citizens.
Are you in love with him yet?
Ah, yes, I’ve been in love with Gene Robinson for quite a while. Thanks for drawing attention to this important book, Lesley. I haven’t read this latest, but his “In the Eye of the Storm” was terrific.
Great post- well articulated and now looking forward to reading the book.
Leslie, great post! Gene Robinson is in the watershed documentary “For the Bible Tells Me So,” that exposes the fallacy of conservative Christian views on gay and lesbians and discloses the biblical, historical, and psycological evidence in favor of gay equality. I’ve loved him ever since I saw it! Another voice in this fight is Mel White, who just did a re-write of a past book now called Holy Terror. I have a chapter in my book called Gay Rights, Not Wrongs, that addresses all this. Thanks for sharing this. I’ll have to read Gene’s book.
Dear Lesley, You have a command over theology and you have read all religions. You know what evil homosexuality is.. and how displeasing it is to our Creator. Then why are you propogating and supporting this evil act.. May Allah guide all of us
Abdullah, with so much evil in the world, how sad that you can call love evil. May I suggest that you read Gene Robinson’s book — ASAP.
Bishop John Shelby Spong (another awesome personality) has this to say about Gene Robinson:
“The Bishop of New Hampshire Gene Robinson is not our only gay bishop; he is our only honest gay bishop.”
Totally with you re Spong. And with Spong re Robinson.
and the God, Lord and Allah tala himself said that relationship between a man and a woman has a purpose to create human life, in gay thing this is neglected. God himself destroyed the People of Lot because they practiced gay. God love human beings and He alone know what is best for His creation so He said dont practice this…
Thanks for this great post – I always learn something 🙂 I’m quite the fan of what the Bishop has to say on responsible relationships in general – his branch of Christianity tends to preach a sort of commitment and honest relationship model that I think we should have more of. I’m intrigued often by this question. As someone who believes in civil liberties on principle – who despises bigotry of any sort to the core of my being – I don’t think this is an issue that will ever be fully ‘resolved’ in the Church – for the simple reason that I think both ‘sides’ of the debate can issue edicts based on Scripture – or at the very least, cite theological movements based on scriptural hermeneutics.
However I’m not so willing to let a State decide on the matter either – the reason is because it is a power structure driven by economic forces – I don’t think the State very much cares whether or not this is a personal choice (gay marriage – not actually ‘being’ gay), in the same way as I imagine that many pro-choice decisions were carried forward not because of any notion of reproductive rights, rather it made economic sense.
The idea of destruction in the name of “love” is an interesting one – of course, if we subscribe to the notion of a Higher Being (and a Loving Being at that), then I don’t see it a problem if this Being would choose to destroy a civilisation of it was in the ‘greater’ interest or served a higher purpose for Creation. But these are philosophical questions, I imagine. The question at first glance appears not to be of ‘human’ love (i.e. the love two people can feel for one another) but a notion of ‘Divine’ Love – who decides on what that means is not up to me, certainly, but I imagine that the highest idea of love that we can conceive of as human beings is limited by our own fallibility – this is why philosophy and religion matters so much to me – these take into consideration that very question and propose alternative models (which for the most part are similar say across the Abrahamic traditions) for attaining human flourishing.
But we are in a sense dealing fundamentally with issues of human nature – and what society’s role should be in harmonising it to become conducive to living together.
Whereas in the case of people who find themselves liking members of the same sex – that’s fine by one standard but many world philosophical, religious and syncretic systems seem to disagree on principle (not whether it’s wrong in principle but people tend to be rebuked if they act on these feelings). The argument of ‘consent’ doesn’t always hold up because various philosophical systems will argue that you can actively choose to engage in self-destructive behaviour which isn’t ‘harming’ anyone else, yet are frowned upon. In today’s world, similar examples might be…. Serving alcohol at a dinner party, serving your guests fattening food, smoking in the presence of non-smokers, smoking at all etc – these are essentially varying degrees of the same thing.
(To be fair to you) Of course on the other hand, we are still ‘free’ to do those things – we haven’t actively legislated on the issue of fatty foods or serving alcohol at a dinner party…(again, this isn’t a corollary example and is sort of mixing moral content so doesn’t translate accurately – nonetheless I have heard it given before and is still worthwhile thinking about – the same way one might encourage a woman who is in love with her abusive lover to leave him, to seek something far more dignified, even if it means the chance of being ‘alone’ for the rest of her life, I would say on principle, is a higher good than her having to be engaged in something self-destructive, even if that means it not good for her on the whole)….
….Though when it comes to schoolchildren being served fatty foods (though, and I’m praying it’s not true, apparently Congress has legislated that pizza is technically a ‘vegetable’) for example, we legislate; or when it comes to smoking in public places, we now have very strict laws in the UK against that – in time, people seem to be trying to constrain things that fifty years ago were seen as a matter of freedom and free choice – which is interesting – in terms of civil liberties one might consider this to be regressive, but most people I imagine would find this to be ‘progress’ of some sort or other).
A corollary argument perhaps that is put forward (though by no means are these things equal)…, and I’m only saying this from a perspective of a religious system (I don’t necessarily agree – just putting the arguments out) that if your child was say a thief or robber, say, or socially dysfunctional – the powers that be will take the liberty of trying and possibly incarcerating this child (if not the parents) – who has somehow thought it acceptable to engage in this sort of behaviour, to try and a) make them repay the damage they have done and b) to try to rehabilitate that child (not just for their own good, but for societal goods too).
But before it got to that stage, wouldn’t a responsible parent do all that they could to dissuade their child from behaving this way? Threats on the child’s liberty, moral instruction, boot camp in extreme cases – despite the fact that the child is a minor?
… Or if your child happens to be obese, society today can even apprehend the parents who might not see anything wrong in overfeeding the child (whether or not you agree is a different matter or the child might be cut off from his favourite foods, or sent away to ‘fat camp’- isn’t that limiting the child’s self-expression? – my point is that our societies have taken stands on various issues).
Now if you are a responsible parent who happens to believe that it is your duty to dissuade your child from engaging in homosexual conduct – you would try every and any recourse you had available. Now why is this sort of treatment ‘cruel’, but not say, sending your child into boot camp, or a psychiatric ward for their kleptomania or their facility to be violent? In all cases, your child has somehow learned that what they are doing is fine. On that level, they are equal. I’m trying to figure out why one is considered repressive by an ‘objective’ standard and the other isn’t?
If you look at the Qur’an, say (and of course you will know this as I gather from that brilliant TEDx talk – one of my favourites in fact) – I can’t speak of the Bible with any authority – though I can’t really for the Qur’an either) – the point is that before the ‘destruction’ was allowed to occur – these people were sent a “warner” or an “apostle” or “their brother” (Hud, Salih, Nuh, Lut from various chapters) to rebuke their people, warn them of their transgressions, offer them God’s Mercy if they turned back to Him… before the command was given for them to be ‘destroyed’- in that prism (and I don’t like the idea of anthropomorphising God, though speaking of a God of Love might suggest indeed that we are made in His Image, rather than us having made God in ours – nonetheless) – I can understand why something so final might be taken in the best interests of humanity.
If we are religious we believe that we have a responsibility toward God; but just as much, God has taken a responsibility over us – that his Command exists because it helps us fulfill the purpose for which we’re created – God’s command in this sense is still active, even if the conduits for it are human agents (in the form of prophets, holy men, scholars)… That’s not saying that I condone stoning homosexuals, or whether I as a mere mortal have any right over someone else’s life and can make that decision for anyone (or would even dare to).
Self-expression being a part of self-actualisation isn’t necessarily the view that most world philosophies assume is a valid premiss – that is a fairly recent development as I understand it. In fact religions will uphold the notion that in order to realise yourself truly, and be truly happy, you need to live by a particular moral code (and that it is a duty of a parent to teach that standard to his or her child); much the same way that in Western society today – you cannot raise your child to be a thief – that is considered a form of abuse. So if you have allowed your child to believe that homosexual conduct is fine – some philosophical/religious systems would equally consider that a form of abuse. Why one over the other? I could understand then why a religious person might believe a God (in our example a parent-figure) would choose to ‘destroy’ or condemn “love” in the name of Love.
The point of a secular world is to apply the same objective standard over all walks of life, all belief systems etc., is applying a sort of rationality about what it sees as subjective morality, whereas those belonging to various religions might argue that these are fundamentally objective principles. Maybe that’s just something we have to put up with in a ‘secular’ world.
Goodness, I didn’t realise I have gone on, and on! (again – I apologise sincerely that I force you to read these, and I promise they’re honest, attempts at exposition and being fair to both sides of the argument).
But on the whole – those people who have hated or oppressed the Jews, the blacks, the women, Muslims, will no-doubt be from the same ilk who are against marriage equality, and certainly we ought to take a stand against them. But my idea would be to educate, not legislate, in general.
Imraan — Suffice to say that same-sex love is not a “lifestyle choice,” but a natural part of human sexuality. Trying to enforce heterosexuality is what is unnatural. Laws permitting same-sex marriage are in fact not deciding the issue at all. It’s laws that prevent it that have decided the issue in the past, and are now, rightly, being overturned (including here in Washington state, I hope, where marriage equality is on tomorrow’s ballot). And yes, this really is a matter of equality, affecting matters not only of sexuality but also of citizenship, taxation, inheritance, Social Security, and legal and health-care decisions. The bigotry of the opposition is too often rationalized as religious — with, as Bishop Robinson shows, no justification. So as regards religion, here is a thought worth remembering from Christopher Hitchens, a man with whom I had multiple disagreements but who got it absolutely right on this: the best guarantee of religious freedom is secular government.
Of course, neither did I mean to imply, if I did, that it is a matter of choice; nor did I mean to say that I would enforce heterosexuality as a ‘norm’ – what I was perhaps inarticulately suggesting was that the ‘destruction’ the reader above referred to, given a certain hermeneutic, is understandable if certain premises are accepted. As a heterosexual male, I have a ‘choice’ in whether I act on my heterosexuality involving another person – the choice is still there, regardless of orientation. But I could make a ‘lifestyle choice’ to remain celibate, or maintain fidelity in my marriage. Now whether it’s socially or legally acceptable for me to act on those desires, as opposed to if I was homosexual, I understand is an important question.
Certainly, under any conception of a ‘state’-based government (though I’m actually an anarchist of sorts as I find the idea of states abhorrent in principle for other reasons) there should be equality for all – I just fear that states might consider enforcing this for cynical reasons. My invoking certain religious examples, or by suggesting that the argument from religion was that indeed, that sexual morality is something that has been defined and interpreted differently across a wide range of contexts. Today we could abhor the idea of marrying a 13-year old to a 20 year old man, we didn’t in the past. What were the precipitating factors in the change – I don’t think it was just society.
The young lady in question is still as physically mature as her counterpart might have been 100 years ago, and I don’t think her mental maturity would be much different (she might ‘know’ more today). (I don’t condone this position but these are the sorts of questions I’m interested in).
For example, if we abhorred historically that a young lady shouldn’t be married off, or be permitted to marry of her own volition until a certain age, we don’t do away with the institution of marriage in and of itself. I can see why those in favour of a strict definition of heterosexual marriage today would feel that the institutions which they hold sacred are now being undermined. Of course, heterosexual people today do far more to undermine marriage anyway – but say, adultery is still frowned upon, or having an open marriage is still a subject of taboo or social disdain; in a secular society, we still seem to hold the notion of ‘Love’ between two people as sacred, even though I think secularism is supposed to drive out any notion of sacredness.
You see, my point is that our society is supposed to be one where we are liberated under the law – we are enforcing equality or freedom in some ways by legislating against their opposites, or legislating ‘for’ them, a sort of ‘muscular liberalism’ if you like. Today, most advocates of equal marriage would, I imagine, legislate that marriage is between two people – no third person ought to be involved – why? I can’t point to exactly an underlying factor for all of these things – but I don’t think the conception of positive rights under the law (i.e. that you’re free to do something) isn’t a standard we apply across the board – there are many things we cannot simply do to ourselves or others. I find that a paradox of the secular world, which I was trying to point out.
Many (not all certainly) of the same people today who are ‘pro-gay-rights’ (I don’t really like labels but we’ll work with that) would abhor polygamy even if it was consented to by all parties – there are ‘reasons’ (however weak or strong) we prohibit such institutions today in our ‘secular governments’ – where I think that if we are to be fair and equal, we should permit. I can understand people (though I don’t think I agree as we don’t have the sociological evidence for it) that by allowing for marriage-equality – we are changing something fundamental in the fabric of the society (whether that’s the reproductive imperative, the regard for Scripture). For example, if polygamy was legalised tomorrow (I don’t think much would be said against a polyamorous society – such households exist but I don’t think they’re ‘that’ commonplace because they aren’t recognised by law – would there not be a tremendous rise in polygamous households – how would that affect the children’s understanding of marriage, their relationship to ‘all’ of their parents, their siblings etc., etc. – but in general, we don’t seem to make these arguments for sociological reasons – we would tend to invoke this notion of ‘love’ – but, if more people were inclined to believe in Freud – our notions of free-associations would be desperately challenged.
Final example of a question I like to ask (I don’t have answers) – Why for the last say, 1900 years was Scripture interpreted widely in one sense, and now is forming the basis for arguments ‘for’ marriage equality. The Scripture certainly hasn’t changed (that much) – Scripture has been interpreted or used in so many ways historically and has led to much abuse and tragedy in the world. Some (not me) might argue that we are using Scripture as a means of infidelity toward its essence (I can understand that certainly).
I indeed also agree with Hitchens – I don’t particularly care for most of his views, but he was definitely spot on in that regard.
Good luck for tomorrow! – I’ve been having this eerie feeling that I should savour the sky dearly – I fear that if a certain Republican candidate wins we may be on the precipice of having mushroom clouds lining our horizons…)
Scott Siraj al Haq Kugle is a credible authority on this topic from the Islamic perspective. He has already written a book on it and here is an essay from him which appeared in Omid Safi edited book.
This was a fascinating read, AA! Found it thoroughly insightful.
I’m a big Scott Kugle fan (though I’m not a homosexual). Do check out his book ‘Homosexuality in Islam’, it is a more detailed scholarly work.
The most fascinating thing about his thesis is his deconstruction of the Lut story. I believe he has done it well for the whole of Judeo-Christian-Islam perspective, if only they’re willing to listen.
I can’t wait for it to arrive from Amazon. Thank you for this post.
Countdown has begun for the opening of this Pandora’s box of ‘revelation’….pun intended! It’s high, as well as the right time to understand this ‘hazy to the world’ scripture….excited!!
All the best Lesley. Reviews are making it more enthusing….
Nuzhat.
Good puns always make me smile! Thanks, Nuzhat.